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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Black Sheep

  I made that suggestion two days ago. They didn't even comment on it.
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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

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  2. friends

  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  Black Sheep

  I am descended from long lines of dead people and I suspect I have inherited their genes. Along comes some crazy American who has already made an ass of himself by prophesying the arrival of the Ancient Worthies in 1925 & tells my parents they're going to live forever, yeah, right. What are the chances of that?
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  Obviously the WTB&TS doesn`t think upping the ante on the Yankee Stadium & Polo Grounds Convention is worth the investment

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe in hindsight they just dont see it worthwhile in monetary value or in gaining converts .who knows what contributions they received at that convention or what kickbacks they may have received from politicians/councils/municipalitys for holding it in their city.. if i remember correctly their was about a quarter of a million in attendance at that time ?

  in the late 50`s ?.

  i know in the 60`s and 70`s they went for more smaller international conventions in more locations around the globe.. and of course their have been far greater crowds at other religous festivals , such as billy graham crusades , the roman catholic popes appearances not to mention the muslim and indian festivals.. or is this just another indication of the slow decline in the numbers and influence of the watchtower religion overall ,are we in fact seeing the demise of the jehovahs witness religion , is it in fact running out of steam.. smiddy.

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  Black Sheep

  They are worried that apostates will post links to the Life pics of the queues for the baptism pools
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  The July 15 Watchtower and all its new light is only...

  by sosoconfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  making people cling to the organization more.

  when i found out it was up i told so many people frantically that there is a new study article up and that it had so many changes.

  my mother started crying saying how happy she is to be a part of an organization that is truly directed by jehovah... only the true faithful and discreeet slave could have such insight.... another person began to say how great it is to see the celestial chariot on the move.. .

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  Black Sheep

  After the 4th person came with a similar response I went outside and literally just screamed....

  You should have got the message that you were doing it wrong when you failed with the first person.

  When you try something new on JWs, start with the least important member to you so that you make your mistakes with JWs that don't directly affect your relationships with the people you really want to get 'out'.

  Then ..... learn from each mistake. If you can't work out what went wrong .... STFU until you have worked it out.
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  Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

  by OUTLAW in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  good afternoon jwn... .

  i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

  aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

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  Black Sheep

  No wonder I was so confused. I'd joined ATWA
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  I just noticed a major omission in the list of DF'ing offenses

  by JeffT in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i noticed this on slimboy's list of things that can get you df'd, and i checked it against the "flock" book.. .

  there is no mention of blood transfusions!

  i know they are downplaying this, but have they stopped df'ing people for it altogether?

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  Black Sheep

  See page 111, Willingly and unrepentantly taking blood, is considered to be DAing yourself.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  JWFacts

  Second, AAWA's key objectives are not to reform the Watchtower. They are:

  I was referring to this on http://jwactivists.org/who-are-we/

  However, in order to drive its message home more effectively and forcefully, AAWA chooses to focus on five key areas in which the Society must introduce urgent reforms. These are (in no particular order):

  1. The shunning of relatives
  2. The mishandling of cases of child abuse
  3. The mishandling of cases of domestic abuse
  4. The stigmatization of higher education
  5. The ban on certain forms of treatment with blood

  AAWA extends an open offer to the Governing Body of the Watch Tower Society (or their representatives) to meet with AAWA to discuss ways in which the organization can introduce much-needed reforms concerning the above core issues.
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  Books for making a choice to believe in the Bible or not

  by Aunt Fancy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know some of you have referenced excellent books but i am not sure where to find them.

  i am looking for some very good books to give me the other side of not believing the bible.

  i am not sure where i stand at this point and would like to be informed.

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  Black Sheep

  Go to the library and look for books on critical thinking. After you have read them, you should be ok reading some of the recommendations you will get here.
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  Differences Between JWs in the US and Europe

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there are many cultural differences between the general population of the us and europe, what about jws?

  i have heard about such things as beards being allowed, movies that a jw cant watch in the us or would be frowned upon watching being ok, same with tv shows, and even the way they dress in public.

  seems more laid back over there if this is true.. any truth to this?

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  Black Sheep

  As long as you appear to be a potential convert, the sun will shine out of your bum. Make use of this status to make them defend their worst doctrines.
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  AAWA is here!! (The Association of Anti-Watchtower Activists)

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcic4g5tulw.

  http://www.jwactivists.org.

  facebook the association of anti-watchtower activists.

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  Black Sheep

  I don't think it is clever to throw people some slack when their choices/actions/inactions/whatever affect people who never signed up to their ideals.

  Their hearts being in the right place doesn't make it ok if they 'out' someone who is working from a different agenda to their own.

  Me ....

  I have no desire to 'reform' the WT. I want it gone. That is not AAWA's stated objective, and I do not want my name associated with AAWA by some dickwit's over-enthusiasm.